Presented Cate Mercer talks with Carla van Laar who is an Artist and Arts Therapist who currently lives and works in Victoria, South Eastern Australia, on the traditional lands of the Boon Wurrung people in Inverloch. Carla has 30 years’ experience working with people and the arts for health and wellbeing in community organisations, justice, health and education contexts. She has also lectured and supervised Art Therapy students and insists on being part of a creative revolution in which art re-embodies lived experience, brings us to our senses, makes us aware of the interconnectedness of all life and is an agent of social change.